High Powered Female CEO - Episode 14 with Emma Churchman
"The truth of who you are is always going to orient you towards abundance is always going to orient you towards the universe, conspiring to support you”
Welcome to Chronicles of the High Powered Female CEO Episode 14 with Emma Churchman
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INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPTION
Melisa Keenan 00:23
Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Chronicles of the High-Powered Female CEO, where today I have with me, Emma. Welcome, Emma.
Emma Churchman 00:32
Thank you so much. So much to be here, so glad to be here.
Melisa Keenan 00:37
So glad to have you. Emma, tell us how people typically know you.
Emma Churchman 00:42
Sure. A lot of folks know me from my brand Abundance by Soul Design.
I am a psychic who is also a spiritual advisor to transformational leaders and business owners. So, what that means boots on the ground, is that I help folks who've already figured out strategy and mindset in their business and/or in their brands and help them work with energetics, with their own intuition, work with their own soul design to excel, a great, their growth.
Melisa Keenan 01:19
That's awesome. Gosh, I love that. There's a lot in alignment in my work with that as well. So excited to dive into this conversation, Emma. So let's get to it. Tell us a little bit about your story.
“The truth of who you are is always going to orient you towards abundance is always going to orient you towards the universe, conspiring to support you”
Emma Churchman 01:36
Sure. Yeah. So back in the day, I was a Quaker minister. I was also a trauma chaplain and home-hospice chaplain.
I've got master's degrees in divinity and in medicine. I'm a Ph.D. candidate in conscious business ethics with over 20 years of experience as an entrepreneur, and over 20 years of experience helping people do that path of discernment and decision-making in their lives and in their businesses. So that's the background, and the common theme is really always helping people tune into the truth of who they are and the work they're meant to do here in the world.
Melisa Keenan 02:23
That's so awesome. And, so, you mentioned before we got on here an interesting thing that happened in your journey to success. Do you want to go right there?
Emma Churchman 02:38
Sure, sure. Yeah. So back in the day, I was like most spiritual entrepreneurs, not making a lot of money, kind of scrambling to get things to work in my business.
And I had learned all the strategies, learned all the mindset was doing all the right things to grow my business. And I had this moment one morning, I woke up and I realized that I wasn't allowing the truth of who I was to come through to help me grow my business.
I wasn't doing my business in the way that was most natural to me. I was doing it the way my mentors were doing it. I was doing it the way my peers were doing it. And so I flipped the switch. I started marketing and selling, and delivering my programs in a way that was unique to me. And years ago, that looked like going from $500 months to $20,000 months in just 30 days. From a multi-six-figure business to a seven-figure business and beyond.
So that process of always paying attention to the truth of who I am has been a theme. And what was most interesting about that overnight success, which was not overnight, right? We're always building up to having these great stories that we can tell.
Is it at the time I was engaged to this man who looked me in the eye when I told him that I just made $20,000 in 30 days and said, Emma, you are crazy to think that you can be financially successful as a psychic? You know, who do you think you are to be making money as a spiritual person? Real spiritual people don't make a lot of money. And so I realized at that moment that he and I were on different meds, right?
This notion that you cannot be spiritual and be abundant is not a narrative that's working for us anymore. It's not a narrative that's going to help consciousness on our planet evolve and move forward. And especially as we've got so many people today who have been really kind of a 3-D oriented, really caught up in being human.
They're starting to wake up, they're starting to evolve and they need folks like us who are more spiritually oriented to help guide them when they're making business decisions. When they're making decisions that are impacting our economy, we need more consciousness. And so I realized that the path that I was on was to help us evolve our consciousness.
“We're always building up to having these great stories that we can tell.”
Melisa Keenan 05:36
Isn't that the truth? I love that. gosh, I really, really resonate with that. So what the crap did you do about that relationship? I mean, cause that's the kind of thing like I think this is so pertinent because that's the kind of thing that we often don't hear.
Right. That's the kind of story that it's like. And then I had to lose people along the way because they literally hated me for my vision. Didn't just support it. Like they were, you know, outright going to put me down and going to try to stop me. And I, that's, that story is not unique. I don't think different iterations. Right. But of the same story. What did you do?
Emma Churchman 06:18
Well, obviously I dumped him and moved on right now. I'm married to an amazing man who loves the vision, totally supportive. But, yeah, I had to be willing to be alone. And that is a theme that I see for my more established clients, you know, who got seven-figure, multi-seven figure businesses, that theme of isolation, that feeling alone, that feeling of: how can I be a transformational leader if I've never felt so lonely in my life? or if I, you know, I'm not liking my life anymore because I've evolved beyond everyone who I know. Yeah. It's super common.
Melisa Keenan 06:59
Yeah. So true. So that's great, you know, and I, but I feel like there's probably just still space to sort of honor that for people, because it's not always, it's usually never easy is it?
Emma Churchman 07:17
Right, right.
Yeah. And you know, the first step is admitting you have a problem, right? If you are established as a transformational leader, established as a business owner, established as a visionary and you're saying to yourself, my life and my business aren't fun, fulfilling, and satisfying, life-giving to me, admitting it is the first step. It seems like, you know, that you think about the 12-step program in alcoholics anonymous, but it's actually the same thing because what I see is a lot of these leaders who are not willing to admit how they're actually feeling.
And just trying to ignore what their intuition, what their inner voice is saying and move forward because they'd become successful, or because they have a big brand or a big business already.
Melisa Keenan 08:18
Mmm. So true. So someone like you who really supports people with their businesses and you made those shifts early on, I always find that interesting. I'm the same way where it's like, if I actually tried to do it out of alignment with myself, it won't work, call that a blessing or a curse. Right. Because I see people who do things that, you know, it's like, you can tell that their soul is aching. And, but it works right.
It still creates these tangible results that they're working to create. And then people like you and me it's like, well, no, I can't bring in the income until I get completely aligned. And then that it all starts working. So, paint a picture of what your day looks like right now, because it sounds like you've really worked hard to create a fulfilled life. So what does that look like as a seven-figure business?
“This notion that you cannot be spiritual and be abundant is not a narrative that's working for us.”
Emma Churchman 09:04
Yeah, there's a lot of freedom. There's a, I'm very much a lifestyle entrepreneur. If you're familiar with that term. So a day always begins with journaling, spiritual practices, with tuning in to what is my soul desire. What does the soul of my business design?
In terms of growth or moving forward and listening to that. And of course, acting on that. As soon as I get the intuitive hits it always involves movement. I do high-intensity interval training. I walk, and my dog was on, we live on a mountain where I can have the dogs off-leash. So we do that in the mornings.
Mornings are very much my time. In a reflection for tuning in, afternoons are more public-facing like this kind of interview or meeting with clients doing boxer supports, doing marketing and outreach and then evenings and weekends are off. I work Mondays through Thursdays, the first three weeks of each month.
So I have 18 weeks off every year because I also take the entire market in December.
Melisa Keenan 10:16
Beautiful. Gosh, I love that. How did you do well, actually, what I really want to ask you then Emma is what excites you now, now that you've created this beautiful like it's not super high pressure. you know, you, have the time off, you want, like, what's your next level for you? What is that?
Emma Churchman 10:44
Yeah, so that's really interesting because that's something that I'd really been tuning into a lot this year. Last year, I got really clear that it was the year for us to have our dream house. So we actually bought a house in the spring of last year and gutted it down to the studs.
Rebuilt it doubled the size. We just moved in a couple of months ago. So that was a big vision for me. That was the pin ultimate vision that I had for myself and my life at that time. And now I have that and I have a husband who I adore. I had a lifestyle that I adore. I have all of the things right that I could possibly want.
And it's okay. So how do you? How do you continue to grow? How do you continue to up-level once you have all of the things that you desire it's really about too, for me, it's about tuning into where is the fun in this. So fun is everything from. Walking alongside a client and helping them in that process of self-discovery.
That was super fun for me, helping them to become a version of themselves. They'd never experienced it before. Fun for me is walking on our mountain every morning. Now that it's spring and see what's popped up overnight. So it's little things. It's not the big momentous goal anymore, which is fascinating. I didn't realize that I would get to a point in my growth where the little things have become so much more precious to me.
“What I see is a lot of these leaders who are not willing to admit how they're actually feeling and just trying to ignore what their intuition, what their inner voice is saying.”
Melisa Keenan 12:28
Hmm. Isn't that profound? cause it always comes back to that. I was literally just speaking with someone last night and saying that that's when I feel the truth of who I really am. It's like little things like seeing the freckles on my kids' faces, like really seeing them or, you know, or orgasms or the simple stuff, you know?
Emma Churchman 12:57
Yeah. Barefoot. Yeah, exactly.
Melisa Keenan 13:03
I love that. gosh, that's great. So at this stage, in the game and having pioneered your own path, do you feel like you know, is there any aspect of you that you still struggle to allow to come forward?
Emma Churchman 13:24
Oh, that's an interesting question. And sitting with that. I don't know. I mean, I'm not trying to be coy. I don't know. I'm pretty unapologetic at this point.
Melisa Keenan 13:44
That's so cool. I and I think that matters. Like I think that, Like we have to do that excavating and full permission work to integrate that a success. So I think that's huge to be able to say like, you know, I don't know. I feel like I'm me.
“How do you continue to up-level once you have all of the things that you desire and it's really about to? For me, it's about tuning into: where is the fun in?”
Emma Churchman 14:06
Yeah
Melisa Keenan 14:06
Maybe you know how profound that is, right? Like most people don't say that.
Emma Churchman 14:14
Oh, okay.
Melisa Keenan 14:16
I'm not at my interviews. That's the first time I've asked it here. I just kind of asked him, but you know, in talking with women and in talking with clients and stuff, it's like I don't think that most women say that. Right. So I think that's beautiful.
Emma Churchman 14:32
Thank you. Thank you.
Melisa Keenan 14:36
Any last pieces of wisdom that you would share with us today? And then I have one more question for you.
Emma Churchman 14:45
Yeah. I'm just listening in for your, what your audience might be needing at this moment. Yeah. That theme of being unapologetic is coming through that there's, it's much easier to grow if you're not compromised. The truth of who you are, even if it doesn't make logical sense, even if you don't see that mirrored in your peers, your colleagues, or your mentors, the truth of who you are is always going to orient you towards abundance is always going to orient you towards the universe, conspiring to support you.
Melisa Keenan 15:26
Mmm. So last question and I do ask this of every, every person featured is what is a moment in your life where you felt most fulfilled?
Emma Churchman 15:53
Yeah, I think it was the day that we moved on to this. When I moved in with my now husband and our two dogs into this house that we built, literally from that, you know, the ground up in the middle of a pandemic with, I don't know if anyone listening to this as tries building in the middle of this pandemic with building supplies that are delayed for weeks and months.
Crazy increases in lumber prices and all that. And just manifesting that literally out of thin air, having no idea where the money was going to come from or how we were going to make it happen, in a relatively short amount of time. That was pretty fulfilling.
“Little things have become so much more precious to me.”
Melisa Keenan 16:42
That's so cool. I love that my in-laws actually were doing something similar at home that has been in the family for generations.
And yeah, to say that it was like beyond frustrating, like
So, yeah, that's so great. Emma, thank you so much for joining us. And I think that these conversations matter so much for other business women, to hear these things and see what's possible and know that we're not alone in some of those challenges that do arise in our tribe, in our relationships, and to see someone who was able to persevere forward in that and still and still create what you had intended to create, but also the fulfillment in your life.
Just really, really valuable. Thanks for being here.
Emma Churchman 17:41
Thank you for having me.
Melisa Keenan 17:43
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